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Went for a ride today .. was pulled over because of others speeding .. Link

Apparently .. I need to get with the times & buy a phone ..
"Why"
It will make things easier for me next time I'm pulled over ..
"Yeah .. Right"

Fuck that, if they want to watch & track me .. let them use the satellites ..

Leaves me dumbfounded on how they can't accept the fact of someone not owning a phone ..
Pissed me off been called a liar over it & then to be threatened with arrest over it ..    

It wasn't until a complete 'feel up' search & physically turning out my pockets to prove that I wasn't carrying one before they accepted that fact ..

During the feel up by a young cop [still had pimples] {just as he shoved his hand into my pocket & turned out the lineing}
 "You've got an enticing touch, ya turning me on .. Are you turned on ??"
at that point, I had to turn out my left pocket myself .. "talk about prick teasing .."
The [arms folded sternly watching] Sargent had a chuckle ..

Anyway ..

How bloody desperate are they becoming ??
Demanding phones to try & find something on you when you haven't actually done anything wrong ..    

FUCK SAKE  

Lesson learned today ..
Don't carry a phone .. it will be used against you .. one way or another ..

 




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Well that just sucks I gotta say sounds a lot like harassment
 




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I am a bit confused, so whats the phone got to do with it. They think you were on it while riding.  It want stop me from carrying my mobile as i see it as a safety issue. To get help if need be.
 




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Steamer .. it's information gathering .. but yeah, to see if I was using it .. {so I was told}
As the Sargent said .. "We CAN request to see your phone, if we believe it was being used at the time of driving."
& what cop believes that you are innocent until proven otherwise ..
They had taken the other guys phones back to their van for about 15 mins {per phone} .. plenty of time to access & record ALL your info, contacts & photos ..

From the number of young cops & sternly watching cops {Van, 1 Highway patrol, 2 Ford Territory cop cars & two un-marked cars} ..
It looked like a training exercise for the new [yoing] ones.. 'testing' of what they can try for ..

 




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So they thought you were using your phone while riding ? That’s a new one .  
 




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That is their claim ..

but we know it's so they can gather information ..

 




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Just get one of cheap pre paid $ 10 phones from coles express , load it up and bait them , juss hand it to them if they ask for it ,,, always keep it in a pocket ,,,
 



 
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Ya got some mongrel whoolopers down ya ways Rxes man..
Make sure ya keep em down there also....
 




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madv8bike wrote: [View Post]
Just get one of cheap pre paid $ 10 phones from coles express , load it up and bait them , juss hand it to them if they ask for it ,,, always keep it in a pocket ,,,


     
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Hmmm .. this could end badly for me ..
sometimes it is best to keep quiet & stay in the shadows    

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Ya got some mongrel whoolopers down ya ways Rxes man..
Make sure ya keep em down there also....


Ya right about that Robo .. a couple of years ago, there were two cops in separate old beaten up un-marked cars driving 10 - 15 k's under the limit, then put there foot down when being over taken .. = busted.
They were also swerving out at riders as being passed & braking in-front of them, just to incite some road rage    

{It all started when Gillard puss newman started the VLAD law crack down}

 




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With the set up cops in unmarked cars. I would have set them up, have front and rear cameras.
Similar thing happened on Macquarie pass on nsw south coast a few years back, cops pull out and go slow, enticing road rage and making riders over take. Well a couple riders had cameras, and took to court. Those cops got reprimanded and all charges on riders dropped.
 




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With the set up cops in unmarked cars. I would have set them up, have front and rear cameras.
Similar thing happened on Macquarie pass on nsw south coast a few years back, cops pull out and go slow, enticing road rage and making riders over take. Well a couple riders had cameras, and took to court. Those cops got reprimanded and all charges on riders dropped.


Reprimanded?

I bet they all got in the Cop Shop and laughed their arses off about what they did and how they got away with it.
Then all got on the piss down the local and planned how to get the bikers next time.
 




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With the set up cops in unmarked cars. I would have set them up, have front and rear cameras.
Similar thing happened on Macquarie pass on nsw south coast a few years back, cops pull out and go slow, enticing road rage and making riders over take. Well a couple riders had cameras, and took to court. Those cops got reprimanded and all charges on riders dropped.


Reprimanded?

I bet they all got in the Cop Shop and laughed their arses off about what they did and how they got away with it.
Then all got on the piss down the local and planned how to get the bikers next time.


Exactamundo !

Copper’s idea of a reprimand is a pay rise and a pissup .  
 




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+1 ..
A cop {had cones with out the back of cop shop in Bre several times {until he told me where it was coming from}} was caught [& proven] to be stealing yarndy & re-selling, from sellers in Nyngan, Brewarrina & Bourke, deal done with sellers [no charges when they gave over buyers names] .. just over 7 months of stealing & re-selling & busting the little users .. he was given a promotion & transferred to Bathurst.

Even when they outright murder someone ..

They are given a suspension/holiday with pay    

 




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Cops do get reprimanded. Severely and harshly.

Years ago a good mate of mine was the top cop at the local cop shop.
He was a really good bloke. Honest and with bucket loads of integrity.

It was around the time that Emergency Services were justifying themselves as to who would handle what area, specifically in rescue operations.

Was at his place doing a bit of electrical work, and having a beer with him. He couldnt frequent the local pub because of cop haters.
Even though no one in the local area could say they had been treated anything but well by him personally.

There was a minor crash jsut out of town, so every man and his dog with lights and sirens headed out to the crash.
Cops, Ambos Fireys and even SES.
He lived on the main drag. We watched as several of the 9 cop cars sped past his place.
Some were fast, but reasonable. Some just over the speed limit.
Couple of the Highway Patrol cars were extremely fast.
There were way too many cars for a minor incident anyway.

He made sure he was in the station on their next shifts on.
Carpetted the lot of them.
There was disciplinary action taken against all of them.
Obviously for operational reasons he didnt go in to specifics.
But there were notes placed on their employee records.
They mean a lot when it comes to special assignments and promaotional opportunities.

This bloke was a real old school cop with honesty and integrity.
He went on to head up the SPG, which was TRG renamed after a bloke got shot in the face in the city.
He also was responsible for quite a few senior officers either handing in their resignations, or being sacked when the ICAC inquiry went through the cops like a dose of salts. Many incidents relating to the contents of the stations safe.
 



 
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My father taught me very early in life about coppers, No1, the only good honest copper
is a dead one, No2 never ever talk to the Gillards other than your name and address and
never ever have one as a friend.

And my father was a honest law obiding citizen who had never even been booked in
his life but what he told me was very true and I must admit in my 60 years of life I
can honestly say I have never ever meet an honest one who will actually tell the truth,
not fucking one, and one must wonder how many innocent people are in jails because
of these Gillards lying.

Oh and the phone, no they cannot demand to view your phone in any way without first
applying to do so (they still can view it if they think you are breaking the law but they
must state this first) unless it involvolves those involved in accidents where the pig Gillards
have been called.

So how do you give them permission to look at your phone with your concent without
you even knowing you have done so, well simply by handing it them and this gives them
your concent, remember this, they asked, you handed it them approval given and it's
as simple as that.
 



 
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I have met a few "decent bloke" cops {never a chickcop though   } .. [from both sides of the law   ] treated me with respect & courtesy ..

But, to trust a newly met one .. NO.

There are no more 'old school' cops left .. sadly .. {the ones that actually cared & thought for themselves}

they [the entire police force] are needed to be totally controllable & unquestionable by there 'employer' .. look at the equipment that they have been recently 'upgraded' with    

Bluey .. As the Sargent said .. "We CAN request to see your phone, if we believe it was being used at the time of driving."
that's the thing .. "THEY 'Believe' .. or 'Suspect' .. something of you .. which gives them the "right" to 'act'  ..
& that in its self, self-reinforces their belief or suspicions of you which adds to their own self-importance of own righteousness ..    
{I ask them this .. fuck it confuses them     }


 




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Times certainly are changing with the attitudes of some cops.
I still know a few.
Knew them before they were cops.
But they have certainly changed somewhat after being in the job for a while.
But that is expected when you think about what they deal with everyday.

I was brought up in a family where we were taught to respect authority.
That probably makes my attitudes slightly different to some.

When I was just on my Ps, my mates neighbour was a motor bike cop.
He was with general duties, and did a lot of escort work, but also did a lot of ticket writing, just like the Highway guys..

He gave me some advice back then, that I stuck with over the years, and did manage to save me from quite a few booking s over the years.
Doesnt work so well these days though, but will generally end with less delays than I have seen others endure.

When pulled over, get out of the car and move to the back of your car. Or bike as the case may be.
Be respectful.
If you arent respectful they will make life harder for you.
Dont admit you were in the wrong but almost apologise. Let them be the boss.

Do the right thing by them and there is a good chance you will be let off with a warning.

Had a mate who was a truck driver. He hated cops. They gave him a hard time.
Explained the philosophy to him and he shit canned the idea.

Fast forward a few months and I saw him pulled up in his ute by a cop.
He was standing at the tailgate of the ute talking to the cop.

Was a few days before I saw hima again.
He tried my idea.
Got off a fine for 80 in a 60 with a warning.
Changed the way he interacted with the cops.
He got pulled over just as often, as trucks tend to do.
But got way less in the way of fines.

These ideas dont seem to work so well these days, and perhaps for the last 10 years.
One Highway guy I know doesnt give out warnings anymore.
His reasoning is that he has no idea how many warnings the driver has already had, and how many more he may get.


Cheers

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Rob the only way you will get a warning from the majority of coppers in NSW
is when they feel sorry for you and explain that if you have a ten year free
of infringements licence you can apply to have that fine dropped and they do
in most cases.

             
 



 
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