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At least some things are headed in the right direction , but insurance companies are all the same happy to take your money endlessly and fucking slow as a wet week to pay up
 




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After almost 6 months off work, I got to see a neurosurgeon on 26/3.
Had to wait about a month for the appointment.

So the verdict is I need spinal fusion.
The disc in S1/L5, the lowest joint, is rather well flogged out.
It has been flattened out and the resultant expansion has closed the gaps required for the nerve to pass through freely.
The L5/L4 is well damaged too.
He is looking at fusing S1,L5 and L4 together.

The specialist was fantastic in showing me on the images where the problems were.
It was easily visible when he showed me what he was looking at.
I looked at the images myself earlier and without some explanation, they meant jack shit.

So now will no doubt come a battle with the CTP Insurer, who will try to get out of having to pay for the surgery.
Apparently it is around 70k to do the job.

In the meantime, with the 6 month mark coming up, my employer has requested more information from my doctor.
The premise being that they want to know when I will return to work, and whether adjustments will be required to the workplace.
My suspicion is that they are preparing a case to have my employment terminated.
The future will see what happens on that issue.
 



 
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A good solicitor in your court will help....everyone will be out to cut your throat
For example the Insurance co might/will send you to their doctor and you can nearly bet his findings will show your not as bad as reported...maybe.?...
Your employer is looking for evidence you will be unfit for duty for the foreseeable future,possibly not able to return
It didn't take long for my employer to flick me...
Good luck with it al Rockoz and especially good luck with  the healing...

oOps Edit:...panodol osteo is good for pain...it's not a big banga pain killer and is slow to work,but it can take the top off the pain level..
Opiates stop working on the pain after a while,just keep you zonked and addicted
Don't forget ....a good solicitor is gold,talk to him before each and every step
 




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hi,ROCKOZ,  sorry to hear what you are going thru,  as i have said before, when this situation happens there is more than the physical aspect , witch is bad enough.  the other side effects  are lack of wages, weight gain, and mental frustation dealing with people like those shit heads from centerlink, as you  found out. the avarage person who works ,will find it very hard dealing with them, as PIZZ , said try to stay away from heavy pain killers, more problems than the pain from your back.  i have the same problem as you , 22 months now, i was on lyrica, put on 10 kilos in 3 months, they cause massive weight gain ,and cause seizures, i felt like crap . threw them away .lost weight and still in the same amount of pain. its a learning process , how to deal with people , and your self. i came upon this site nearly 2 years ago. and the good thing about it is they are all good people , who have had these problems ,and offer real advice because they have lived it, un like some doctors, surgeons , etc, who dont live in our world,, RICK
 



 
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Thanks guys..

Have tried ditching the endone a couple of times because I am worried about the side effects.
Sadly nothing keeps the pain levels as manageable as endone.
So will be sticking with it for the time being.
I have found over the years that I dont have an addiction trait, not to drugs or booze anyway.
Ciggies and bad decisions yes.

My solicitor is keeping up to date with things.
He has pointed me in the right direction a couple of times already.
Ive got a great GP. He understands me and the life I lead, so all is good there.
My surgeons have been the same as well.
So I am lucky in that regard at the moment.
Have dealt with surgeons previously that were so far up themselves it was unreal.
But so far so good.
Only wanker in my treatment is the physio, and Im ditching him next week with the approval of the insurance company.
Im a fat old bastard. I was before the crash and functioning well. And I want to be the same after the crash.
The pain killers arent helping with weight.
I actually lost 10kg in the months leading up to the crash, but have stalled and put a little on.

The painkillers are playing havoc with my diet.
There are days I just cant eat.
Lots of coke keeps the belly kind of on track, but plays havoc with other things
 



 
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So as expected the CTP Insurer denied me the operation for spinal fusion.
Solicitor got onto it and they are sending me to an independent neurosurgeon for further assessment.
Cant see how independent he will be if he is appointed by the insurer, but will have to go regardless.
But yet another month in delays.
Get to see him at the end of May.
Appointment in Canberra, which is about 2 1/2 hours away if the road I take isnt closed.
3 1/2 hours if I have to go the long way.
Still better than driving to his other office in Sydney.

So if everything goes reasonably, I can expect to be operated on in June or July.

Really pissing me off with the delays all the time.
The disc damage and nerve impingement is clearly evident in the MRI images.
But when so many people do actually rort the system I understand they need to do the best to vet out those who are scamming.

So in the meantime its keep up with the drugs.

Frustrating part is I can only get a bit over an hour of activity a day, then I lay myself up for the rest of the time.

Went for a drive the other week out of neccesity. About 5 hours driving. Got painful. Took 3 days to recover from it.

Cant wait to get some permanent relief.

Cheers all.

Rob
 



 
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Hi Rock,
 I hurt my back at work in 2010. Had Intrumental Spinal fusion done in August 2014. After fighting work through the tribunal & courts. Had L2/3
L4/5, S1 fused. My Doctor was Associate Professor Peter Papantonio from Kogarah in Sydneys sth suburbs. He also teaches other doctors how to do the Op at University of NSW. If you want any more info, pm me.
 




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hi, ROCKOZ, , hope life gets better for you, as you have found out dealing with people  that are supposed to help you  can be frustrating. exspecialy those shitheads from centerlink, i dont think the avarage worker can deal with them. whitch is what they want.  i see STEAMER, said he has had spinal fusion, could you let us know a bit about it  if you think the fusion was the way to go ,  thanks ,RICK
 



 
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Hi Rick,
   I was happy with my outcome. Yes was told it is not always a complete fix. I was complete pain free for first 3 weeks after Op which i thought was unreal, but i done something silly and now have sciatica down left leg again, but rarely any back pain unless i over do physical things, but once i rest the pain goes. Just not the sciatica, where my left thigh feels like burning sensation, and pain down whole left leg.
 If i had all this happen again, (like from being injured at work) would i go through same Op. YES..
 I must also add that from my past place of employment ( not there anymore). If they had not contested it for over 3.5 years. Then my back might not have got as bad by time of having Op as by then i also needed 2 x Donor bone wedges inserted on right side and are grafting to my spine.
 




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Initially the pain I was getting was sciatica pain.
No pain in the back.
But gradually the pain in the spine has developed and is getting worse by the week.
We (doctor, specialists and myself) werent too concerned about the hip and leg pain.
In the crash I had a Ventolin spray in my front pocket.
It was flattened somewhat from the impact.
It was thought that was the problem and it would settle down.
But after the ACL reconstruction, and 5 months, the ortho specialist decided to investigate further.
We waited until the knee had settled down before going for the MRI.

Realistically, I could have been going better if we addressed the hip/spinal issue first.
I was managing to hobble around reasonably with the stuffed up ligaments.
But hindsight is always 20/20 vision.

Im hoping the insurance specialist agrees with the treatment plan.
Why I have to go through it I dont know.
Surely their specialist can read the MRI just as well as mine.
It was very obvious where the nerve was impinged in the images.
Once the specialist showed me what he was looking at anyway.

So I am contemplating another 8 months or so of being off work.

My employer seems to be okay with it, but the letters they send seeking updates seem almost threatening me with termination if I dont let them know what is going on within the deadlines they set me.
Got a nasty reminder that my GP hadnt furnished them with their required information.
Not my fault. But again the tone of the letter was ominous.

I caught up with one of the people who helped me on the day this morning.
He didnt see the crash, but heard it.
I had been following him and he turned into the street that the car that got me came out of.
He said that from the noise he thought it was going to be a lot worse than it was.

Anyway. All I can do is sit around and wait for the next step in the process to happen.


Cheers

Rob
 



 
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Hi Rob.  Hopefully they sort it out soon. The other parties Dr's will play dumb. You mention a pinged nerve in your back. They might just do a Laminectomy, which is the shave the discs either side of nerve, letting it have more freedom to move without being pinched.
  Fingers crossed you get it sorted soon.
Cheers Steamer
 




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Steamer.

The decision was made for a 2 level fusion.
My specialist reckons this is the only way forward.
My ortho surgeon also said this would be the best solution before referring me to the neurosurgeon.
So 2 highly regarded specialists coming up with the same scenario seems to me to be the best way going forward.
The neuro told me to expect the insurance company to stall the process.
He said he had come across them spending 100k to deny an operation that would have cost 80k.

The problem seems to come from dickwads that polish their arses on chairs.
People who probably dont even have a First Aid Certificate making decisions against doctors and specialists.
Somewhere along the line the system has become more about not spending money on surgery instead of what is best for the injured party.

Apparently there is a new scheme for CTP Claims in NSW now, where the insurer actually pays your lost wages as you go along.
This would be a better scenario. But not sure what happens with it on the end of treatment.
Thankfully I had Income Protection Insurance as part of my superannuation.
It took 60 days to kick in and only pays 85% of normal income.
Much better than being on the dole though.
Its difficult financially though on the limited income.
But better than having no income.
By comparison, when I was on Workers Comp, it paid 95% of average earnings over the previous 12 months.
I was actually earning more money on Workers Comp than being at work.

In the end, it will have been a challenge. One I am hoping will leave me pain free and able to get back in the saddle.
No money though is enough to compensate for the pain I have been through, and the disturbance to my normal life.
 



 
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Hi Rob,
 Fingers crossed for you that all goes to plan,. Yes your Neuro is correct in the stalling process. I hurt mine in Dec 2010,  in 2013 had to take company to Tribunal & court, they were ordered to pay up for Op, then they still hung it out till the arvo before the Op was due and the Hospital was withing 15min of cancelling my Op. When the company finally paid up.
Good Luck.
 




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