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HD is a commercial organisation and will build what sells or change itself to sell.....Plain and simple. Mercedes did right to adapt to the changing times and therefore today has more market share than it did before. It is all about continuity, progress and staying in business. You don't adapt...you become extinct! HD were out of this huge segment and have been smart to get in with their Street models.....

I don't believe HD is an elitist bike....on the contrary it has a following for the love of it and the freedom that this brand exudes....so it is discrediting  the HOGs and the HD riders by calling us all elitists! I think our beliefs are more commoner and down to earth which is the exact opposite of the definition of anything elitist.

Also for the record....the Streets are made in Kentucky USA and India....the ones coming to the OZ are made in India....unless I am seriously mistaken it is a predominantly Hindu state?  


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Harley is not what Harley use to be.....
And respectfully so....They have to keep up with the market...
Harleys are not by no means a rarity anymores....
There's more of the bastards running around here then Jappas nowadays with the big wallets the young louts have in their back pockets. They drop in value faster then a faggot drops his duds in a soap picking up competition... Should they've built the 500 and attack the younguns.....Well if I was steering the ship.....Fucken oath. Get the young bodgies interested with a entry....Get them addicted
 




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HD is a commercial organisation and will build what sells or change itself to sell.....Plain and simple. Mercedes did right to adapt to the changing times and therefore today has more market share than it did before. It is all about continuity, progress and staying in business. You don't adapt...you become extinct! HD were out of this huge segment and have been smart to get in with their Street models.....

I don't believe HD is an elitist bike....on the contrary it has a following for the love of it and the freedom that this brand exudes....so it is discrediting  the HOGs and the HD riders by calling us all elitists! I think our beliefs are more commoner and down to earth which is the exact opposite of the definition of anything elitist.

Also for the record....the Streets are made in Kentucky USA and India....the ones coming to the OZ are made in India....unless I am seriously mistaken it is a predominantly Hindu state?  


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Harley is not what Harley use to be.....
And respectfully so....They have to keep up with the market...
Harleys are not by no means a rarity anymores....
There's more of the bastards running around here then Jappas nowadays with the big wallets the young louts have in their back pockets. They drop in value faster then a faggot drops his duds in a soap picking up competition... Should they've built the 500 and attack the younguns.....Well if I was steering the ship.....Fucken oath. Get the young bodgies interested with a entry....Get them addicted


There's enough wannabe dickheads and public servant wankers riding them now , don't need more on em
 



 
 
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I still like to believe that some of the blokes on Harley's are a certain type of cut. Seems that no one else believes that anymore, maybe that's the problem
 



 
 
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The 500 is not my thing at all but there is a market for them and for the money I think there gunna sell well though I don't think they will hold value like other Harleys
After market bits will be on the market in no time at all for the young riders with more disposable cash to play with so as a marketing decision its a very good one
 



 
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I still like to believe that some of the blokes on Harley's are a certain type of cut. Seems that no one else believes that anymore, maybe that's the problem


Mate....If your seeing the young rich kids earning over 150 a year here. Sorry. I'm with you. That cut has long gone my friend. Tattoos, Beach boy bodies full of Roids riding brand new Breakouts or Vrods with Nike joggers......Mmmmmmm. I think the Nike bikie is here in full swing. Might have something to do with them Vlad laws and the Gold Coast......Just saying.
 




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As long as they're on a bike of some sort , that's the main thing .  
 




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The 500 is not my thing at all but there is a market for them and for the money I think there gunna sell well though I don't think they will hold value like other Harleys
After market bits will be on the market in no time at all for the young riders with more disposable cash to play with so as a marketing decision its a very good one



Bang Bang....Ya Posted that up while I was typing....My Point exactly....
Young louts with big wods of Dollars are in the Market......That's the market HD wants.
 




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As long as they're on a bike of some sort , that's the main thing .  



Good point Davo....
Or is that David....   
 




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I still like to believe that some of the blokes on Harley's are a certain type of cut. Seems that no one else believes that anymore, maybe that's the problem


Mate....If your seeing the young rich kids earning over 150 a year here. Sorry. I'm with you. That cut has long gone my friend. Tattoos, Beach boy bodies full of Roids riding brand new Breakouts or Vrods with Nike joggers......Mmmmmmm. I think the Nike bikie is here in full swing. Might have something to do with them Vlad laws and the Gold Coast......Just saying.


I hear you mate, I don't like the way things have changed but I'm happy to say that I still ride with older fellas of that cut.
They are around
 



 
 
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I still like to believe that some of the blokes on Harley's are a certain type of cut. Seems that no one else believes that anymore, maybe that's the problem


Mate....If your seeing the young rich kids earning over 150 a year here. Sorry. I'm with you. That cut has long gone my friend. Tattoos, Beach boy bodies full of Roids riding brand new Breakouts or Vrods with Nike joggers......Mmmmmmm. I think the Nike bikie is here in full swing. Might have something to do with them Vlad laws and the Gold Coast......Just saying.


I hear you mate, I don't like the way things have changed but I'm happy to say that I still ride with older fellas of that cut.
They are around



Dam straight their Chriso, some TOP blokes in that crew
 




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[quote user="chriso" post="179065"]I still like to believe that some of the blokes on Harley's are a certain type of cut. Seems that no one else believes that anymore, maybe that's the problem[/quote]

Mate....If your seeing the young rich kids earning over 150 a year here. Sorry. I'm with you. That cut has long gone my friend. Tattoos, Beach boy bodies full of Roids riding brand new Breakouts or Vrods with Nike joggers......Mmmmmmm. I think the Nike bikie is here in full swing. Might have something to do with them Vlad laws and the Gold Coast......Just saying.


I hear you mate, I don't like the way things have changed but I'm happy to say that I still ride with older fellas of that cut.
They are around



Dam straight their Chriso, some TOP blokes in that crew


Yep and your one of em fella
 



 
 
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JESUS CHRIST...WHAT THE FUCK IS HARLEY DOIN...Dont know about the rest of you Big Twin Riders but as far as i am concerned just remove any Harley badges ect from these so called Harley Davidsons...its the same as when Mercedes ect started making smaller cars so that everyone could afford and have one ..it just cheapens the brand and lets face it, thats why we ride Harleys because they are an elite motorcycle and we dont want our brand cheapened buy muslim built pieces of SHIT...Wake the fuck up Harley...and keep our pride and joy Elite....end of rant...666


Got to agree ol mate, bloody disgrace Harley bringing these tonka toy shit  box fucking things out.
Don't ageee that Harley has to move with the times and stay with the market, they are doing fine don't worry.

They lose a bit of respect from me with these ugly jap looking things and I imagine a lot of other die hard Harley fans


Chriso, whatever you think of the 500 &750 streets, they are being accepted in USA by the traditionalist Big Twin Biker type.
Have a read through some of the Yank and European Harley Forums.  They love them.
Blokes with Shovels, Pans, and Fatboys in the shed are riding these Streets around town as their daily commuters or just for the hell of it.
They have been accepted by the die-hard Harley Biker more then even I thought they would.

Same with the Electric Harley 'Livewire'. I expected to hear all the ridicule. But, all I have read from Harley Die-hards is praise!  
The negatives I have read on both bikes (Streets and Livewire) were from the Non-Harley folks. The Plastic Fantastics and the Boy racers.

I honestly thought the Street would be bagged by the Yanky old skool Biker. But quite the opposite.

But it's not the first time the company has made alternative bikes. Their Topper Scooter was a market leader! Their SS Road Trails are still in demand, they make Mini Bikes, Mopeds, etc etc. But no-one ever complains about those, and they sell well.

The Street is just another new model. Don't make the mistake and think that they just make and sell Big Twins. They never did.
Actually, they now make less items than they used to.
Gone are the Snowmobiles, Scooters, Golf Buggies, Bicycles, 500lb Bombs, Cafe Racers, Miltary Off-roaders, etc.

Here's some of their previous Bikes. Some far worse than the Street  

The Roadmaster Sporster
 
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The Scrambler

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Harley MT

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Harley Scat

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Harley XA Parallel Twin

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Harley Roadmaster Bicycle

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And Harley invented the Inline Transverse 4 cyclinder.

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So as you can see, Harley has always been into a variety of Bikes. This is only a small collection of them.
And these are just the Bikes, not other products they have made.
The Street isn't some new tangent for Harley to go on. Just another in its line of bikes.
However, the LiveWire is a new Tangent. But still has Harley people excited, not negative.

But yeah, as a Harley loyalist myself, the Street just don't seem quite right, but I accept them as the new model in the range.
Another part of their History.
 




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Great pic's Ken ... they also made snowmobiles for 2-3 years as well.
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Great pic's Ken ... they also made snowmobiles for 2-3 years as well.
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yep I did mention that.

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Good post Ken . Harley's always made weird bikes , they made a Dyna didnt they ??  

As elite enthusiasts   , we have to take some chaff with the wheat .        
 




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Great pic's Ken ... they also made snowmobiles for 2-3 years as well.
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yep I did mention that.

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    Yes you did mention slowmobiles, I was just 'Validating your facts' with a picture.  
 



 
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Good reminder of harleys past ken however them models were not as widely available to the public and wont have the start that these 500s will have.

My opinion still stand regardless of what yanks are saying and i still feel the same opinion will be held by a lot of harley enthusiasts here.
 



 
 
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I think it's a great idea from HD. With the LAMS laws even a Sporty is not on the list. There are some who love Harley's and have not had the chance before now. They've had to serve their time on a Jap bike before they can step up to a HD.

We're a 2 HD family and my son's partner has just got her restricted licence. She's ordered a Street 500 because she's like us, she just loves Harleys. She didn't want a Jap bike, she rode a 650 Yamaha and found it a bit too big and heavy (she's only small). They are that popular she has to wait 6 weeks for delivery. It'll be the longest 6 weeks of her life I reckon haha. When we were out on Sunday she said she can't wait to actually ride with us rather than just being a pillion.

My son test rode it and his comments were it's not a cruiser, it is a naked bike and quite small. He said everything is very precise, close gearshift, good brakes and throttle response, turned well and kept its line, more like a Jap bike than his big twin was his comment. He did say it sounds like a sewing machine and the sales guy reckoned the Bassani exhaust was better than the SE, so I reckon it'll have one on it pretty quickly haha. He said it isn't overly powerful but was a very very easy bike to ride, so great for a new rider. When she gets it I'll probably take it for a spin and let you guys know what my thoughts on it are.
 




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